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Abusive ban

I have been the victim of really abusive administrative action, and I am not sure what to do. I have been a contributor to Wiki Commons (ProFReader) for many years, and I have really focused on architecture. Most importantly, I live in Charleston, SC which has (at least as of a few years ago when I last knew it to be true) the largest designated historic district of any city in the United States. There are literally thousands of historic and contributing buildings that receive protection according to city ordinances. Many years ago, I started adding photos of those buildings. I used existing categories or added new ones based on existing categories and was very consistent across more than 10,000 images. Each one was added to categories based on its location in town, the number of stories, the roof form, the piazza (our local term for side porches) form, and the building materials. And for buildings with confirmed construction dates, I used existing categories for those.

The reason I say all that is to explain that never, in more than a decade, has anyone ever raised any objetion to the categories I used. And, they are used by researchers. I know that because I have taught at the Clemson University Architeture Program here in Charleston and have explained to researchers how to create lists of, say, 3-story houses with gable roofs that were built of brick.

So far, so good.

A few weeks ago, someone posted a question on my page and asked me why I was using numneral-based categories (e.g., 3-story buildings), and I gave a brief reply. The poster never added a follow-up and never offered any reason for any other category usages either in his initial message or thereafter.

Then, a few days ago, without any further discussion or without any basis, he used a gadget to change all the categories. He not only added "Three-story buildings in the United States" or some variation on that, he REMOVED all of the categories I have very consistently used withut objection for a decade (e.g., 3-story buildings). I reverted those changes. Then, without any warning or any discussion whatsoever, some random admin scolded me for reverting the categories that what they had been for years. He added that such changes are expected to be discussed. (Ironically, that criticism was added directly under my explanation for my choice of categories and made no mention whatsoever of the first user who had initiated the wholesale changes.) Not only did he baselessly criticize my choices, he banned me from Wiki Commons.

I am a pretty serious contributor who steadfastly avoids any of the admin stuff. Until this encounter, I have never had any real issues with anyone and certainly not with any admin.

I realize this entire post is probably too long, but I wanted to vent about what is a pretty clear example of abusive and baseless administrative actions. It bears repeating that I used EXISTING CATEGORIES. If someone really objected to my choice to use "3-story buildings" instead of "three-story buildings in the United States," that is not really on me.

If my actions were really so horrible, then that's fine. I am happy to just wash my hands of the entire thing and walk away. But this is really an example of why regular users get fed up and quit taking part. ProfReader (talk) 20:19, 28 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Usually numbers are used in categories. Look, for example, category:People by quantity and even category:People in beds by quantity. So in my opinion category:3-story buildings and category:Buildings by stories are correct and every subcategory in category:Three-story buildings by country should be renamed. A very lot of work. Taivo (talk) 09:09, 29 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
It's not just 3-story buildings. It's everything in {{Buildings by stories}}. This is probably going to need some sort of bot work. However, I would advise getting consensus first at COM:VP as the "just do it, don't bother with consensus" attitude probably led to this inconsistency in the first place. —Matrix(!) {user - talk? - uselesscontributions} 09:18, 29 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
@ProfReader: You were not banned. Please stay logged in. @Andrei Romanenko: FYI.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 12:25, 29 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Андрей Романенко: Please comply with COM:SIGN.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 12:35, 29 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Jeff G.: If you mean this remark on the discussion page of the topic starter, it is not mine. I only asked them a question once, and my question is signed. Andrei Romanenko (talk) 13:16, 30 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Андрей Романенко: No, sorry, I meant this edit, which I only just read in diff form, and to your edit above. Your signature does not specifically identify you as Андрей Романенко.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 20:03, 30 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Jeff G.: My original username uses Cyrillic alphabet, thus according to Commons:Signatures#Signatures_supporting_multilingualism I use it in my signature in English transcription. This signature linked to my userpage identifies me as Andrei Romanenko and Андрей Романенко in the best possible way, and I am going to use it exactly in this form. Thank you. Andrei Romanenko (talk) 21:22, 30 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
"he banned me from Wiki Commons" And yet here you are, posting on Wiki[media] Commons. You have a clean block log. There is no mention of a ban, or block, on User talk:ProfReader#Removed category, which appears to be the discussion to which you refer (and where you appear to have posted while logged out; the IP also has a clean block log). The other users involved are User:Ivanbranco and User:Андрей Романенко. Did you notify them of this discussion? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:32, 29 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
I got notified only now by your Ping. I didn't report any user for a ban. I just moved files from a category (3-story buildings) to a more specific one (Three-story buildings in the United States). I removed files from the more broad category in order to avoid over-categorization as I read here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Categories
To be honest I thought this was basic consensus on Commons and I didn't thought it was a problem at all. I acted in good faith, I always try to move files to generic categories to more specific one when I can. After my edits (hours of work since I don't know how to batch move files, I did it manually with Cat-a-log) got reverted I stopped moving United States files to avoid edit warring and moved on to categorize other countries. Again, I never reported this user for a ban. Ivanbranco (talk) 12:49, 29 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

So, in short:

  • No ban occurred.
  • Files were (correctly) moved to more specific categories.
  • Those more specific categories probably should use digits rather than writing numbers out in English.
  • Nothing here is an administrative issue.

Jmabel ! talk 17:25, 29 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Taylor 49 (talk) 17:12, 30 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
What do you mean by "false accusation" in my remark? The user was moving files from the categories sorting images by country to the root category. It is not an accusation, it is a pure fact. I disagreed with this approach, and other users in this discussion disagree with it too. Andrei Romanenko (talk) 17:46, 30 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Autopatrolling

Please add autopatrolled status for the trusted user:ExRat Estopedist1 (talk) 11:58, 29 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Done I think this is clearly uncontroversial. - Jmabel ! talk 17:29, 29 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Discussion at COM:HD#Request to remove unknown personal image

  You are invited to join the discussion at COM:HD#Request to remove unknown personal image. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:15, 30 July 2024 (UTC) -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:15, 30 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

An administrator might want to take a look at this. I don't know whether the OP is who they claim to be, but the uploaded file appears (at least at first glance) to be a copyvio since there's nothing on the source URL that states it's been released as licensed. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:17, 30 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
  Done Speedy as copyvio - no free license at source Gbawden (talk) 08:31, 30 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thank you Gbawden. -- Marchjuly (talk) 11:27, 30 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Deletion (2024-07-30)

Please delete File:JustaxoAudio files in Kotava.wav and File:BakesikJen elparolo de vorto en Kotavao.wav. Deadline for objections passed long ago. Taylor 49 (talk) 16:59, 30 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Done Abzeronow (talk) 17:47, 30 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Remove erroneous category from user page

Please remove Category:English Wikipedia from the Commons user page of editor Studious Human. The English Wikipedia category "Pages" section is not intended for individual users. I would make the change myself but I cannot because I am not an Administrator. (Error message generated informed me when I tried to. English Wikipedia allowed, or used to allow edits to other editors' user pages but apparently Commons does not.)-- FeralOink (talk) 01:33, 31 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Done  — billinghurst sDrewth 02:47, 31 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Overwritten file

Would an admin take a look at File:Dr. Jagriti Luthra Prasanna.jpg. The file was overwritten about 30 minutes ago by the original uploader. However, the original overwritten 2023 version might be a re-upload of File:Roohanisisters.png deleted as a copyvio in February 2022. For reference, I was actually in the middle of tagging the 2023 version with {{Npd}} when the file was overwritten. The uploader seems to be the subject of both photos based on their username, and neither looks like a "selfie" so to speak, So, either the uploader isn't who their username implies they are or the subject of the photo is uploading the images. In either case, it seemed to me that VRT verification is needed at the very least. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:22, 31 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

It is not the same file as File:Roohanisisters.png. No comment on the rest of this post at this time. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 06:51, 31 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for checking on this The Squirrel Conspiracy. Pushing the possible "npd" issues aside for the moment, the file still should be COM:SPLIT, shouldn't it? -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:57, 31 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
If you have the same concern about both versions, I don't see the virtue of splitting the file and then nominating both for deletion. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 07:05, 31 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
That was my feeling as well, but I wasn't sure. Thanks again. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:20, 31 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
If they are the subject of the picture, they should be able to sort out the copyright question. Enhancing999 (talk) 13:14, 31 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

The image does not make it into the Wikipedia article

Hello admin, I have a problem I uploaded the file football kits to Wikimedia Commons for club Malut United FC but it doesn't appear in the Wikipedia article, how do I fix it?

Link [[2]] [[3]] [[4]]

-Thanks PurpleViss (talk) 11:48, 31 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

You wrote _malut2424 pro _malut2425 in that Wikipedia article. --Geohakkeri (talk) 12:05, 31 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Upps, sorry i'm typo 😂
Thank you for reminding. PurpleViss (talk) 12:12, 31 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
  This section is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, replace this template with your comment. --Geohakkeri (talk) 16:54, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Confirmed users

Special:Listusers/confirmed shows five users who are obviously autoconfirmed. I recommend revoking the confirmed right from these users as they are now redundant to them. ToadetteEdit (talk) 17:13, 31 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Done for all but the admin. The log reason indicates they were debugging something, but it's been 2 years. You might want to ask them yourself, as I don't think it would be appropriate for me to remove it directly. Thanks! -- CptViraj (talk) 05:01, 2 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

IP user is confused (at best) or spamming (more likely)

102.218.50.41 (talk · contributions · Move log · block log · uploads · Abuse filter logJustin (koavf)TCM 03:03, 1 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Warned. —Matrix(!) {user - talk? - uselesscontributions} 04:38, 1 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

File:WFN 2008 logo.svg

Please review. An IP keeps reverting the copyvio template. --Geohakkeri (talk) 13:52, 1 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Done File deleted and Special:Contributions/43.252.167.0/24 blocked. Yann (talk) 14:02, 1 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Change content model for a sub page

Could one of the interface admins, please, change the content model for Commons:Mobile app/Feedback/styles.css into sanitized-css? — Speravir02:41, 2 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Speravir: It says "Invalid selector list at line 5 character 1". -- CptViraj (talk) 03:33, 2 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
@CptViraj: Perhaps now? --Geohakkeri (talk) 07:28, 2 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thanks,   done. -- CptViraj (talk) 07:39, 2 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thank you both, Geohakkeri and CptViraj. Ah, what a pity that these modern selectors are not supported yet. — Speravir22:37, 2 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Edit request (Main Page/motd)

Please review the request on Main Page/motd. --Geohakkeri (talk) 09:57, 2 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Geohakkeri: where on that page? This was not a valid fragment identifier. - Jmabel ! talk 17:56, 2 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
The talk page isn’t very long and there’s only one open {{Edit request}}. See Talk:Main_Page/motd#Thumbtime_doesn't_work_on_Main_page. --Geohakkeri (talk) 18:03, 2 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
  Done - Jmabel ! talk 23:26, 2 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thank you! --Geohakkeri (talk) 23:40, 2 August 2024 (UTC)Reply